Comments on: We Struggle for CSS and IE Harmony: Tool, Guides, Hacks

By: Jingqi Xie

Jingqi Xie — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:28:00 +0000

When you want a “9” to hack IE 8, IE 9 and 10 would also be hacked.

By: Jingqi Xie

Jingqi Xie — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:22:00 +0000

In reply to Matthew Potter. Some people need IE to use ActiveX which IE 11 PRETENDS not to support.

By: Jingqi Xie

Jingqi Xie — Thu, 12 Sep 2013 11:09:00 +0000

I am one of the brave-hearts who use IE 11. It supports CSS 3 quite well. You don’t complain about Firefox’s not supporting td’s position: relative (which, you know, is a spec of CSS 2.1), about Firefox’s being the last to support private browsing and about old WebKit browsers’ not behaving quite the same with CSS standards… You just complain about old IE, which is unfair.

By: Matthew Potter

Matthew Potter — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:21:00 +0000

Let’s stop catering to older IE browsers… no more. No more hacks, no more tricks. If we get enough people to go out of their way to ensure that older versions of IE (non-standard compliant ones) are no longer supported then we pass the complaints onto IT departments and users who refuse to update. This will only work however if we provide a link to “reasons why it looks like ass”.

I understand that a lot of people are working for organizations that haven’t updated, but there are far greater issues with these older, non-supported browsers than just the overall design of a site’s CSS rendering. Issues that should be brought up to a decision maker. Functionality, security, and modernization are all factors that businesses, governments and associations need to take into account along side the web developer’s complaints.

If all else fails, let’s simply put an extra fee for older browsers. An extra 15% for ever previous integer based version number behind the current release: IE7 required? Extra 45% to the associated cost. We all know that the time needed for it will equal about that… Hell, in some cases, we develop completely different code bases for IE. NO MORE!

P.S. Don’t blame MS (too much). They have been proponents of upgrading. It’s the non-educated web users who simply aren’t aware of the issues and what is truly available to them if they update.